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untold/animals  said about 4 years ago  or at  1:12PM on Sunday, August 15 2010 in chat

What do you think of the Greens' performance during this election campaign?

Personally, I've noticed a much greater emphasis on a coordinated publicity advance including billboards, TV ads and print advertising focused on the point that they're a viable alternative voice, not too divorced from the mainstream as to be irrelevant to middle Australia, and not a wasted vote.

With their appeal gradually broadening beyond inner-city lefties, and the disappointment of Labor's social/climate policies against an equally unambitious Coalition, Bob Brown and co are turning their eye ever more toward the mainstream. This is good, I think.

But it seems they have a lot of loose ends to tighten before they can really match the two major parties in terms of the consistency and clarity of their message. I've noticed little glitches in their pamphlet copy for example that seem either very poorly written or just ineffectual and potentially counterproductive (like Richard Di Natale's bio ending in 'Go Tigers'). The Greens MPs website also has a lolcat 404 error which just begs for the public and the media not to take them seriously.

Thoughts? Anyone involved with the Greens?


FrankieTeardrop  said about 4 years ago:

Lolcat 404 is quite endearing.


esquared  said about 4 years ago:

I think they need more prominent voices than just Bob Brown. Right or wrong, I think when a lot of people think Greens they think ''STFU Bob Brown''.


esquared  said about 4 years ago:

I dig 'em though.


raven  said about 4 years ago:

Aw untold objects to lolca 404 :(
''Go Tigers'' is a bit wrong though, yeah.

I think in a sense they're not really turning their eye toward the mainstream. Their broad policy base has never been able to get much of a public voice before, but because of Twitter and the net in general, and because they are anyway being seen as more of a viable alternative (at least as the third party/balance of power crew), people are becoming aware of more of what they stand for.

There is more spending on billboards and ads, but I think in part this is because of a couple of very large donations which have actually made this possible. They still refuse to take corporate donations, so they just don't have the budget the major parties do for advertising.

Glitches in pamphlet copy are a real bummer, but we have to realise that the number of paid staff the Greens have is laughably small - because they're a minor party without a lot of moneys. So they do a sterling job considering. Gotta start somewhere...


registradus  said about 4 years ago:

I think the ad with bob brown is great. all sensible common-sense arguments. hard to disagree with.

the reason they have typos/lolcat 404s is because they don't have any money. I'm not sure if it's a policy or just that they are an unattractive investment but they get none/hardly any money from corporations, just supporters. i think.


registradus  said about 4 years ago:

already said


registradus  said about 4 years ago:

and much better.


LeRayonVert  said about 4 years ago:

I think the inner city lefty thing is an exaggeration, I looked at some of the numbers here. For example 35% of the Green vote at the last federal election was from non-metropolitan areas. In SA where there is only one real inner city electorate (Adelaide), the Greens still got over the 4% threshold for public funding in every electorate in the state.


jonny42  said about 4 years ago:

I think they've done really well. They've definitley done a good job of putting out a more mainstream image. My dad whose a typical small L liberal said to me how the greens have ditched the tye die and put on suits. I've heard a few people at my work who have said they liked the way the greens have stuck it too the major party and after the gruen nation the other night everyone at my work (boring white collar office job) was talking about the pro greens ad and how good at was.


Jazzy  said about 4 years ago:

I'm just really happy that they seem to be gaining more momentum this campaign.


untold/animals  said about 4 years ago:

I agree that they must certainly face difficult financial challenges, but there are TONNES of progressives who are also professionals in media, online, etc etc.. who I can imagine would happily contribute their services (certainly something anyone can do without needing big money) to addressing these things.


Morris Iemma  said about 4 years ago:

I think Christine Milne is horrible. On a slightly unrelated note, I think the Australian Sex Party do a disservice to themselves by presenting themselves (mostly) as a joke.


Jazzy  said about 4 years ago:

Not sure that the greens are ready to become a major party, but I support a lot of their policies so will definately be voting for them in the election. I'm happy that their support seems very strong this year, it seems a lot stronger than previous years, which shows the peoples understanding about the issues they have been raising for years now are finally getting mainstream recognition.


Ben  said about 4 years ago:

everyone I know to be good has made this their facebook photo


untold/animals  said about 4 years ago:

Way behind the curve as usual, bitch!




intruder  said about 4 years ago:

That's incredible. Sadly unsurprising, but incredible.


Jazzy  said about 4 years ago:

Everyone should twitter and facebook it to all their green friends, unfriend them on twitter and boycott the Australian!!


Jazzy  said about 4 years ago:

I'm deleting them from my friends list now.


TransientRandom  said about 4 years ago:

Yeah, I'm with you, Jazzy. I know most of my right-leaning friends probably wouldn't even bother clicking the 'hysterical lefty propaganda' that spills from my facebook feed, but I think I will anyway. I'm well aware of the Australian's right lean, but I thought they were smarter/had more scruples than this.


Jazzy  said about 4 years ago:

Anyone have any objection as to why boycotting them might be a bad idea? It's a shame we can't read things in the Australian without inadvertently seeming to support their ideology or institution if that makes sense.


LeRayonVert  said about 4 years ago:

I already cancelled my subscription to the Australian (inherited in a household I moved into) about 6 years ago because of their outrageous claims about the Greens. More recently they've also had their war on science , which really highlights how worthless their paper is. Loon Pond is also good for taking the piss out of the idiotic opinion pieces in the Australian (not exclusively from the Oz, but they get featured a lot).


TransientRandom  said about 4 years ago:

Cheers for the links, LeRayon.

I generally ignore this paper, but what a stream of mighty fine journalism they have been churning out over these years. It explains a lot about the ''Informed opinions'' of the besuited types with whom I (try not to, on matters of opinion) deal.


Maximum Sincere  said about 2 years ago:

Not only are the ALP pro-corporate and pro-war, they're also a power-mad rabble of hapless fuckwands. People might think the LNP show a more united front, and (perhaps spuriously) that they're better ''economic managers'', but they're even more pro-corporate and pro-war.

Greens, yo. They're good for you.


Maximum Sincere  said about 2 years ago:

What are you guys, coolsie wingnut cryptofascists?


Davel  said about 2 years ago:

I am green.

I'm a bit worried about Bobs health and the lack of obvious successors.

If only Peter Garrett wasn't such a tosser.

I think that's putting it mildly.

(Lawyer joke: what's the difference between a lawyer and sperm? the sperm has the potential to grow into a decent human being)


astrousersasmind  said about 2 years ago:

I help out the Greens from time to time, always a nice bunch of people to work with, smart, driven and helpful. I too am worried about the state of the Greens post-Bob though. It really is a miracle than any left-wing party can be this big without sliding into factional divisions. Today at Melbourne Uni O Week I walked past Socialist Alliance, Socialist Alternative and the Melbourne Socialists stalls.


black wasp!  said about 12 months ago:

Your wishes came true, astrousersasmind! :/


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