''It’s weird to me that people think it’s still a thing''

Clearly Mess & Noise do.

yeah, it's a thing. and complaining about these kind of news stories is getting REALLY BORING.

So are the news stories

wanna write them steve?

It's just I reckon most people here on M&N would read Pitchfork anyway. We don't then need to read a news story about a review. Clearly it's just a way to get more page clicks. The Gotye stuff case in point too. I thought M&N was better than that.

Is rdio paying you guys money or is it just a new alternative to Souncloud? Because I can't seem to hear full songs without paying them money, and I'd much prefer soundcloud links.

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Touché

just go find the tracks yourself

It's just I reckon most people here on M&N would read Pitchfork anyway. We don't then need to read a news story about a review. Clearly it's just a way to get more page clicks. The Gotye stuff case in point too. I thought M&N was better than that.

I don't even know where to begin with this.

One of the U.S.'s biggest tastemakers - whose 8+ ratings are coveted and sometimes career makers for artists - gives a local act a fantastic rap. how is this not news? - this will have a HUGE impact on the extent to which RH conquer the US

And Gotye is an incredible story where a local artist continued to surpass everyone's expectations at every stop. Every development has been unexpected and amazing and perhaps the most significant Aussie impact on music at an international level in decades. how is that not news?

Shut up, whingers.

The only thing I love more than endless stories about Gotye and Pitchfork are endless threads complaining about stories about Gotye and Pitchfork.

Hear, hear, flukazoid

Ehh agreed, I'm impressed. I read Pitchfork on the odd occasion - generally I don't really delve too far in or take it to heart too much. Sometimes they have excellent live videos and stuff.

What flukazoid said there. Also – I used to read Pitchfork every day when I was a teen, but these days I wouldn't even say I read it once every six months. I would be surprised if the 'majority' of M+N users/readers also read Pitchfork regularly, especially given how several Pitchfork-approved acts' Australian tours have flunked.

Just announced they have now been announced as the newly-announced headline act of the Melbourne Comedy Festival 2013.

I also read Pitchfork so i can find hip and happening music to illegally download.

Pitchfork has its uses, even if sometimes it's merely for humour

Getting a decent pitchfork review seems to be to 2010-2012 what getting an NME cover was ten years ago. No one really gives a shit, but for some reason everyone needs to hear about it.

Anyway, it's cool for the band I guess. They've had a couple hundred new listeners on Lastfm in the past few days, so I guess it does make an impact. Still not convinced it needs to be reported though.

Getting a decent pitchfork review seems to be to 2010-2012 what getting an NME cover was ten years ago.

You mean during the NEW ROCK REVOLUTION???

NME editor Conor McNicholas said: ''Once in a generation something so revolutionary happens in music that afterwards nothing is ever the same again. Right now, that's exactly what's happening.

Apparently he really did say that.

It'd be nice to read about this stuff in the context of a more interesting interview/article, but really these things are in the minority when it comes to m+n content. Easily skipped overif you're not interested.

Also, part of the appeal of m+n is the fact that it covers anything from Gotye to Justice Yeldham.

And stop complaining about Rdio FFS! So you're getting 30 second snippets of each song from the album to supplement the article. What do you expect, a torrent link?

What do you expect, a torrent link?

that's not really an apt comparison, seeing as artists voluntarily upload content onto Soundcloud, and we don't get to keep it

but yeah, the issue has been debated into the dirt and then some

Jesus fuck some of you are cocks, it's like reading a news article is a personal insult to you. Seriously, what is the fucking harm? And the pitchfork articles are totally fucking valid, as per flukz' comment. Shit almighty

I dont read pitchfork.. so this is kinda useful for me

I have never heard them (about to listen now) but I CAN tell you one thing...Haters gunna hate.

Well what else can poor boy do? Cept for sing in a rock 'n roll band?

I'm just jack of having a story written everytime Pirchfork farts. It's great for RH that they are getting exposure lord knows its an album worthy of it but increasingly across a lot of media, not just here, are you seeing journos quoting/citing journos for content. It seems here Pitchfork gets a run daily in articles which must be to drive more page clicks. That My Disco RADIOHEAD story some time back was another example of this. I don't think it's any coincidence that traffic around here has been a lot less since these types of stories have been cropping up. M&N of the past that I remember never resorted to this.

I don't think it's any coincidence that traffic around here has been a lot less since these types of stories have been cropping up

[citation needed]

in the relatively short time i have been on this site i have found mess + noise to report on bands that they have reported on before, as well as those they haven't. i.e. they follow up their stories and track the progress of the bands in the media, they keep the picture developing so to speak, which i reckon is kinda cool. as annoying as i find gotye and mess + noise's constant reporting on him, i understand why they do it, yes, the page hits are useful but also, they're just keeping up with the story...which is what journalism is about after all. yes mess + noise is probably different to how it was, but the concept of music reporting and journalism is changing significantly at the moment (didn't mess + noise used to be a magazine?) and this is just the way it's going, bitchfork is still relevant (incredibly) and they are reporting on a small sydney garage band that has somehow had a meteoric rise in the world of music, which is a story worth following. if you're not interested in the story then just don't read it!... haters gonna hate indeed.

to be honest, I prefer it when M+N review shit for themselves.

especially local shit that hasn't been reviewed elsewhere.

also, in this day and age, the CD review is becoming a little redundant, surely. it's not like we need an 'expert' to tell us we should listen to something... we can download or stream pretty much anything in a click-link in no time... however many bands live a whole life of awesomeness being a live band, who's recorded output might not be as great. I wanna know about bands who slay live please.

more reviews of hard to find/stream recordings and live performances please.

It seems here Pitchfork gets a run daily in articles which must be to drive more page clicks.

I don't know what watch you're using, but I count three articles in 6 months...

Shut up, whingers.

x 1000000000000000000

yeah i've thought this myself Ben, which makes me wonder, does Mess + Noise have anyone on the ground in other cities or is it just melbourne based?